Angela Clement | Love Endures, Even After Loss

In this powerful episode, I sat down with Angela Clement, who shared her moving journey of losing her husband Blaine to stage four colon cancer in October 2021 after 35 years together. Their life on their ranch underwent dramatic changes when Blaine fell ill, leading to multiple transitions, including selling their ranch, Angela's early retirement as a school principal, and relocating to be closer to medical care. Through her journey, Angela discovered the transformative power of energy healing, which helped Blaine with his symptoms and became her pathway to healing and her new purpose in life.

Angela went on to share how the traditional narrative of "grieving for a lifetime" didn't resonate with her spirit, leading her to choose a path of active healing through grief coaches and energy healers. Her dedication to healing led her to become an energy healer, grief coach, and author of her book, "Awakening Through Grief." We explored the importance of processing emotions, particularly anger, and creating safe spaces to feel our feelings fully.

One of the most beautiful insights Angela shared was her understanding that love is infinite and expansive - comparing it to how having a second child doesn't diminish the love for the first, showing how loving again doesn't diminish the love we hold for those we've lost. She spoke movingly about how Blaine continues to be present in her life as a guiding angel, teaching her that love transcends physical boundaries. Angela now supports others through group sessions, healing programs, and angel readings, helping them find hope and meaning after loss. Her story is a powerful testament to how grief can transform into purpose and healing.

RESOURCES:

• Podcast | Awaken Your Soul's Journey
• Book | Awakening Through Grief
• Healing Sessions

Transcript

Victoria Volk: Welcome to grieving voices. If this is your first time listening, thank you for being here. And if you're coming back, I'm glad you came back. And today my guest is Angela Clement. She is a former school principal, is a speaker, writer, energy healer and the creator and host of the Awaken Your Soul's Journey Series on Grieve. When her husband Blaine was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer in January twenty twenty one, Angela used her knowledge of energy healing to help him with his symptoms and her through the intense emotion. After he transitioned in October twenty twenty one, she continued her study seeking support from healers and coaches to help her. She has since hosted four online summits interviewing over a hundred experts in grief. This information has helped her expand her new life and build a supportive community. Angela is passionate about helping others that are grieving, find hope, and live a life of joy, and meaning after loss. As a certified grief coach, Angela provides one on one and group grief grief support and healing for those suffering from loss. And she's recently released her book awakening through grief on November first of twenty twenty four. Thank you so much for being my guests today. And as and for sharing your story. And I think through story is how we find and see ourselves and other people's stories and our and other people's experiences, and we realize that we are not alone in how we're feeling. And grief can make us feel like we're going utterly crazy sometimes. I imagine I've been with my husband. We've been together over twenty years now. And there's such a fabric of your day to day life. Everything that you do is, you know, this dance, right, with this other person. And thirty five years is nothing to sneeze at. That's a significant amount of time to share your life with somebody. So take us back in time to and my dad actually passed away with colon cancer when I was a child. So I'm also curious if you had children and navigating that and all of that.

Angela Clement: Well, thank you for inviting me. I really appreciate it. It was a huge loss. Like you said, we were together for thirty five years. We lived on a ranch near a little town called Valkyrie, and we had a life there. We had two children. And he ran the Cal calf operation, and I was the I taught at the school. And I was a school principal for the last twelve years or so. And so you know, we expected that we would retire. He had sold the ranch. The kids had no interest in doing ranching. They were doing other things. And so we sold the ranch. And I had a couple of years left maybe before I retired or so I thought. And then he got sick. And it was so sudden. It was just out of the blue. You know, he just before Christmas, he wasn't feeling that well. He had kind of a pain in his gut, and we thought, well, maybe he had a hernia or, you know, you think gallbladder, you think, you know, all of these other things. But when the diagnosis came in, it was just he described it as a punch in the gut. It was just and and that really never went away for him. It just took over his life. And so even while he was sick, I was grieving the loss of, you know, the life that we had the husband that I had, you know, he was he was gone, he was fighting for his life. And so, yeah, it was devastating. We uprooted. We moved because we needed to get closer to a hospital. And so we moved to another town where my son lives. And, yeah, and and I retired. And so all of those things changed, my relationships changed, where I was living changed, everything changed. And so in some ways, that was brutal because it's it's like the rug's been pulled out from underneath of you and you don't even know what to do. And but at the same time, when he did pass, it really gave me a clean, clean break. You know, I didn't have to go back to work, so I had time to grieve. Had time to kind of figure things out. And as awful as it was, that was a blessing in in disguise. I mean, now I looked back and see it as a blessing at the time. It was not. It did not feel like a blessing at all. And and the whole experience of looking after him and practicing my energy healing was catalyst for what I do now. So during that time when he was sick, I really started to immerse myself more and more into energy healing to help him and me through the emotions and through the illness. And through that, I discovered that this is what I really wanted to do. This is this is what I really wanna do as I wanna help people. Right? And so that's how I got into everything what I'm doing now is because I took this path to learn more about energy healing?

Victoria Volk: October twenty twenty one was not very long ago in the grand scheme of things. I mean, I think COVID is very fresh in our minds and Yes. It seems like all of that change, you know, it how do you process that? You know, how do you get how did you get to this point? Do you feel? Was it the energy healing? In in such a short it seems like a short amount of time to get to where you are today. And so I'm curious, maybe your past experience, how that influenced things. Are you grief as a child if you had those experiences?

Angela Clement: Yeah. Well, I did lose, you know, grandparents. As I was growing up, I lost three grandparents. One of them was really close to me. And so those came back up. And I think a lot of people find that because we go through loss and sometimes we just don't really deal with it. We kinda just move through it and get on with our lives. And then this big loss caused me to have to look at those previous losses and really start to process them. So It actually brought up a lot more than just that grief. And so how did I get through it?
Well, I had a lot of support from family and friends, especially in the beginning. And that helped me get through the first few months. But after that, you know, how people start to kind of live their own lives and then you have to figure out, you know, what you're going to do. And I decided that I needed help. And so the energy healing was one thing that I really did. I enlisted energy healers to work with me one on one whenever I could you know, I watched a lot of summits and I watched energy healers and if they offered free sessions, I was all over that. Like, I was taking up whatever I could get and and learning more about it myself so that I could do healing on myself. So I practice something called the Wonder Method, which is a a form of a modality of healing. And also, I took energy healing course with the lady by the name of Adrian Blackwell. And she was the one that introduced me to Ricky and some like, Shamanic Jurnying, different types of healing, lots of different types. And so through that process, and through getting health from a grief coach, that's how I move through. But I will say that it just takes one little message sometimes to turn your thoughts around. So there was a fellow by the name of Sean Doyle who wrote an article in it was online and I I remember sitting and reading it and the light bulb going on because he had mentioned how he lost his wife suddenly. And then he realized that he could start a new life that that would be one chapter and that he would be able to start a new one. And there was something in me that really appealed to that because I was in such dire well, we all know how that feels. It's it's the devastation is so strong that you just want out. You just want out. And so any hope that you can get, anything that anybody can tell you, that you can move through it is music to your ears. And so when I heard that, I thought, okay, well, maybe it is possible to move through this despite the fact that a lot of people had told me, well, grieve for a lifetime and you will learn to live with this. I really didn't like that. So much. That response was just not good enough for me. And so after I heard that, I kept looking. And on Facebook, there was a quote that said, you will agree for Some people will say you will agree for a lifetime. I choose otherwise. I choose the path from her to hope to healing every day, and that was a quote from Julie Clough, who became my grief coach. And when I saw that quote, I just intuitively knew I needed to work with her. And I did the thirty minute, you know, discovery session, which I recommend people doing, you know, take that thirty minutes and check out the person that you think you might like to work with, and I knew in that thirty minutes that she was gonna be able to help me. I was scared to death, to work with her, terrified to be to have to talk about my feelings. I knew I was gonna cry.You know? And I I looked back at that now and think, oh my gosh. You know, there was so much fear there, but it changed my world. It was I looked forward to every week with her. And every time I met with her, we helped my thoughts. Right? My thoughts were always pointing towards you know, I have to push this away. I have to get rid of these feelings. This is not good rate and start to thinking about embracing those feelings and feeling those feelings in order to heal them. And I think that's what really started turning things around and me knowing that there was a possibility that I could get better and that I could do it on my own time. Maybe that's faster, maybe that's slower, but I knew that I could move through it. And so I'm kind of like a go getter that way. I just wanna I wanna move through things. And so tell me what I need to do. Right? It's like, give me the x y z, and I'll do it so I can get to the next place. And it was a little frustrating to me because she said, you know, there is no timeline, and there is no like, specific prescription for this. It is your own intuition that's gonna guide you through this. And so I had to trust that I would I would remove through it and and trust in the process that she was laying before me and just let it do what it needed to do. And so that's what I talk about now. I talk about the process of grief and how we need to embrace it because it is a it is a god given process for us to heal. And so when we are pushing it away, we're actually pushing away the one thing that can help us. So that's what I talked about.

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Angela Clement: I am. Manifestor? Yes.

Victoria Volk: Yeah. I can totally hear manifestor coming out of your mouth. That's hilarious. Yes. I love it. Well, I'm I'm happy to meet the fellow manifester. What's the profile? What what is what is your what is your I'm a four six emotional.

Angela Clement: Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what my number is.

Victoria Volk: I understand that your profile. Okay. Well, fair enough. It's enough to know that you're a manifester because Yes.

Angela Clement: I do know that part.

Victoria Volk: That's what I was hearing. Because we are very much let's get in there, let's get it done, and we move very quickly. We move very quickly. And and even through my own journey of going through I went through a process called the grief recovery method and certified in that. And are you familiar with that?

Angela Clement: Yes. Absolutely. Mhmm.

Victoria Volk: Have you read the book, the grief recovery handbook?

Angela Clement: No. But I interviewed the fellow. I'm just not remembering his name right now. But, yes, I have interviewed him and talked to him about it. And I've done some research on that. And I always thought that it was the closest to what I believed the process should be, the way it should be taught. I remember listening to the messages, videos from that program and thinking, yeah, that's that's that resonates with me. Makes sense to me.

Victoria Volk: It changed my life. It changed my life because I had obviously grief as a child. And it was at John James. You interviewed?

Angela Clement: Yes. It was John James.

Victoria Volk: Yes. Since passed away.

Angela Clement: Oh, no. Sorry. It was his son. Oh, cool. Okay.
Cool. Yes.

Victoria Volk: Yeah. It's that's that program is very that's very near and dear to my heart. So I'm curious for you what as a child, had you had I mean, you you expressed that you had lost grandparents and things, but what was the messages that you were receiving about grief? And then once you experienced it, like, how did your family handle it? And what was the beliefs that you were brought up with about grief?

Angela Clement: Yeah. Well, I think I was brought up to believe that, you know, grief was something that happened. It was sad. It was scary for me because I felt like these emotions that were coming up. I didn't have any control over. They just come out of nowhere and there was a lot of fear about showing those emotions in front of other people. And so we're taught that we need to hold it together for our families. Right? We we need to hold it together. We need to keep ourselves, you know, as a principal. I remember thinking back, you know, how we have to stay emotionally stable. Right? I mean, if we don't, then, you know, it's not professional. Right? And so when we suppress that and we don't have an avenue to release it, then it comes up like a volcano And looking back now, I realized, you know, I was always pushing pushing pushing pushing all those emotions down. And then when they did come up, of course, they were scary. Of course, they were out of control because I I had buried them for so long that, you know, when I had a cry, it wasn't a little cry, it was a big cry, and it would might be it could last for hours or days. Right? So I realized afterwards that that was the reason the suppression of the emotions was the reason why that was happening. And once I realized that, everything changed because I understood the process. Right? So, yeah, when growing up, that was the belief. And and I was being told that when you lose your spouse, you will grieve that forever. And I interpreted that as this feeling of devastation staying there forever and me getting used to feeling that way. And so I I really caution people using that kind of language because for me, it was so disheartening and others will repeat that. You know, they will say that over and over and it that's not exactly how it is or at least that's not how I've lived that experience. I certainly do not feel that punch in the gut that Blaine talked about that both of us had at the beginning. I don't feel that anymore. And it's not it's not clouding all of my holidays you know, I I can still enjoy Christmas and birthdays and all of those things and not have that cloud of sadness over top of all of it. And I think that was, you know, the most depressing thing is I can't thinking, well, I can't even enjoy any holidays. You know, I can't enjoy any of the things that I used to enjoy because every time I do that, there's this cloud of sadness that comes in because he's not there.

Victoria Volk: Or guilt?

Angela Clement: Yes. Or guilt. Exactly. Yeah. So I think it's just, you know, changing how I was seeing grief and and changing my my whole outlook on it. Really helped me. And the whole idea of oh, oh, gosh. I can't think of the word right now. But the but the growth that can come from that kind of experience really encouraged me too because I thought, okay. Well, if I can use this as a way to grow and improve as a human being rather than, you know, putting it, setting me in my setting him in my tracks and just living life like the best I can until I die, you know. Having that, what do they call, post traumatic growth, there is the word having that and the idea of that happening was much more encouraging for me than thinking that I was just gonna live the rest of my days, carrying my grief with me.

Victoria Volk: The image I had in my mind was we have a choice to either imagine ourselves walking on a beach or being sucked in quicksand. Mhmm.

Angela Clement: Yeah.

Victoria Volk: And I think that's when people tell people that that that's what you're destined to experience. That's first of all, number one, that's an opinion. Second of all, if that's their experience, perhaps they haven't been open to receiving new knowledge, new information, new experiences. Right? I think you have to be open to be receptive of those things or you won't hear it. You absolutely won't hear it. And so I'm curious, like, the energy healing, I know you said that that was something that you got into as your husband was going through his cancer before he passed, but was that something that you found interesting as a child? Like, what were you kind of into as a child?

Angela Clement: Yeah. I got interested in energy healing when my son was sick. But he was a baby. Actually, he had something called Hirschfeld's disease, which is a rare bowel disease. And we did surgery and we did all kinds of Western medicine, but none of it seem to be working that well. And so one of my friends suggested that I go see a healer. And so that was really my first experience with it. And she healed him. So after that, I just kept reading books and I worked with her a little bit just for, you know, a day workshop or and I've, you know, I had this maybe activation of being able to use the energy in certain ways, able to feel it And so I would I would practice on people. I would just, you know, pick family, whoever was game for it, I would I would help them with, you know, symptoms, headaches, whatever. And And I and I would say I just dabbled in it. That's what I did. I dabbled in it. I was interested in it. I read about it. I dabbled in it. Until Blaine got sick and then things got more serious. But I did have experiences with healers. You know, I had some health issues that I had that I had healers working with me that I was able to resolve. So it it's always been there. It just seems like now I've been catapulted into taking it really seriously and starting to really use it for myself and others.

Victoria Volk: I actually just read something just recently about manifestors in particular in energy healing work and how well, first of all, it's manifestors. We don't like to be told what to do. Mhmm. So it's a matter of us finding what resonates with us. And I tried a lot of things too, but I too fell into Reiki and became a Reiki master and now I do bio field tuning, which if you've never heard of that, look into that, that's really amazing. It's like Rakeon steroids. Yes. I love it. It's you use tuning forks. But do you feel like the energy work has been the one thing that's helped you as a I'm I'm bringing this back to manifestors because there's only like nine percent of us in the in the world. We're a very small percentage, but we can often feel so misunderstood. And And especially I think when we're in grief, we can feel extra extra in those areas and especially when it comes to anger. And so what was the role of anger kinda going in a different area, but what was the role of anger for you? Because that is actually our not self esteem as anger. And I had a really difficult relationship with anger up until only just a few years ago. And so, how has that been for you? And anger is something we all experience, and so this is relevant to everybody, but it's especially more potent for a a manifesto. But what has been your experience with navigating anger?

Angela Clement: Yeah. Well, the belief system was always that anger was a bad thing. Right? So you press your anger. And then, like I said, when it comes up, it comes up and it's it's full blown. Right? Like, you you barely have control of that. So when we were going through the illness with Blaine together, there were a couple of moments where I got really angry and yelling and throwing things and just, you know, just losing it, basically. And When that happened, I felt so bad because it was like he did not need that. And so then I suppressed it even more. So that it would not happen again, and I swore it was not gonna happen again. And I suppressed it so much that when I was craving, I couldn't even recognize it. It was like it wasn't there. People would say, well, you feel anger and I'm like, no, I don't I don't feel an anger. There's no anger. And then what I had to do, it's interesting, it came to me intuitively somehow. I had to say if I was going to be angry, what would I be angry about? And then I wrote down all the things that I would be angry about. And as I was writing those and making the list and it was long, I could feel it bubbling up. I could feel it boiling inside of me. And then I had to let it out. And it was it was an experience just releasing that. And I remember, like, taking soft things and throwing them around the room and just pounding on my bed and, like, just any way I could possibly get that energy out, that's what I did. But, yeah, it was suppressed.

Victoria Volk: How does it look now? When you feel it coming up, like, what do you do? What does what are some techniques and things that you would recommend to people when those big emotions like anger come up?

Angela Clement: Yeah. So now I recognize that there's a reason first of all, that is coming up. It's not just a random act that there's something behind it. And so then I get curious, what is it? What is it that's causing this? And I like to find a space where I can just sit and and just let it come up. And if I can't do that, I will suppress it until I can find a space. Because I don't want that, you know, but I will never leave it. You know, we talk about the waiting room, how emotions will come up, or triggers will come up, you know, at work or in a place where you can't deal with them maybe, where you can just say, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna get to you. It's okay. You can make a nice imaginary waiting room for those emotions and then deal with them later. But you have to go back to them. So I have to recreate that situation and bring the emotions back up so that I can deal with them. But if I sit in silence, and I just sit with that emotion long enough. It will tell me what bottom line is, what I'm really afraid of. Because usually it's a fear. Right? It's like some kind of fear at the bottom of that anger. And once you recognize it, then that's most of the process because after that, you're either gonna find a way to deal with it. You know, there might be some steps that you can take to help your or you're going to release it emotionally if it's something in the past. So and you can always ask for help. Right? I always I always think we don't have to do these things alone, but just recognizing that you are angry and that there is a purpose to it. There's a reason. There's something that needs to be healed and it's coming out. And how can we best address that?

Victoria Volk: How would you have described the Angela before? Lane pass versus the Angela now.

Angela Clement: Angela, before, was living a happy life. It was a beautiful life. It was all the things that you talk about, you know, you have a good job, you live in a nice community, you have good friends, you have a nice husband, you have wonderful kids. And yet, now, I realized that even then with all of that happiness, I wasn't truly fulfilled. There was something missing. I was there the meaning wasn't there. I wasn't feeling the full range of emotions because I was keeping myself at that, you know, trying to keep myself at that even keel. Right? Don't get too excited. Don't get too angry. Don't get, you know, serious you're staying in that even place and when you're allowed to just let those emotions go and you realize you're here to experience those, then you start to feel joy that's way more than you could imagine and also sadness all the way. Right? And and But you embrace it because it's so amazing and it's so so wonderful. It's just a totally different way of looking at things. How would you describe how

Victoria Volk: it's changed your relationship with your kids?

Angela Clement: Yeah. The interesting thing is that, you know, I would never cry in front of my kids. And now I will. Sometimes I will. But I think the biggest thing that helped me, because we didn't talk about this sort of stuff. We're not you know, some families are more you know, I love you and hugs and all of that kind of thing. And I always think that's so beautiful, but we were more standoffish. I was We didn't do that. Right? Neither one of our families did. And so it was interesting, like, now I feel like I can hug my kids. I want to. Right? It's not not an awkward thing. It shouldn't be an awkward thing. And also, I found that through my blog writing, I was expressing my feelings and they were able to read it. And I didn't realize the effects of that until afterwards. It was like giving them a window to what was happening within me and they were watching my growth as I was moving along and and experiencing the grief with me, really, and I didn't know it. So I think the universe for pushing me to put those words out there so that my kids could see what I was going through because I don't think we would have the conversation. You know, if if we touch on it, but it wouldn't be that deep conversation of, you know, what's really happening emotionally. And now we can.

Victoria Volk: That's a beautiful thing. Mhmm.

Angela Clement: I'm

Victoria Volk: curious as to I mean, it's not it's been three years, but do you look forward to a future relationship? Are you in a relationship? How is you know, are you dating? Like, what's that like? Mhmm. Free for that?

Angela Clement: Yeah. It's interesting. So I really I know that you have to be happy with yourself. You have to learn to love yourself and to be with yourself and to be alone with yourself and happy with that situation. And so I'm in this place where I am. Happy the way I am. And I love the freedom and I love, you know, being able to just take off and go on a holiday and, you know, and do all these things. Yet that, yes, there is a yearning there to have someone to do that with. When you are by yourself in the evening watching TV or, you know, I don't really do much of that, but, you know, you you don't have anything to do and you don't really feel like doing anything, you're just relaxing. That's when you feel like, you know, it would be nice to have somebody. Or if you're traveling, it would be nice to have a partner to travel with. Right? So there's there's this yearning to have that best friend, that companion, that relationship again. But I'm not willing to go on a dating site, at least not yet. And so I've kinda just told the universe, you know what? If he's out there, show him to me because you know, but I had to go through a process of realizing that love is infinite. So just because when I had my son and then I had my daughter, you know, I didn't love my daughter less than I did my son. When I had the next child, I just craved like there was just more love. I just loved her as much as I loved him. And if I'd have another child, I would have loved that child as much as I loved the first two. Right? It expands. And so I realized with a new partner, that's the way it's going to be. It's like, I still have this love for Blaine and it's always going to be there and yet a new partner would be an expansion on that. And so when I look at it that way, then it opens up the possibilities.

Victoria Volk: That is beautiful. And I've never heard someone articulate it in that way. And the flip side of that is people look to replace. And you're familiar with the grief recovery method, so you understand the six myths and one of them has replaced the loss and that's what we do when, you know, even as children, if we lost a dog or a pet or something, the parents, that's okay. We can go get another dog. Let's just replace the one you just lost, you know, really disregarding the feelings and the motion and the relationship that the child had with that first pet, you know. It's Mhmm. It's so I love how you said, it's if it it's framed in a way where it's an expansion of what's already there and what's what's already present, it's a very different intention going in.

Angela Clement: Mhmm. Yeah.

Victoria Volk: So thank you for sharing that.

Angela Clement: Yeah. And I truly think that if you have, you know, needs. So being alone and you're like, well, I need a partner because I feel so alone or I need a partner because I need financial insecurity or I need a partner because If you're going out into the world seeking that, then the universe is gonna reciprocate. And to me, you want to be in a space where it's not in need, it's an enhancement to an already fulfilled and happy life. And so I know that's not the easiest thing, but I truly believe that's the way you wanna go into the next relationship.

Victoria Volk: There's a healthy way and there's an unhealthy way. And I think eventually, you'll find out which that you found yourself in, you know, the situation that you find yourself in. And again, intention is huge. When it comes to energy healing, intentions, half of it, three fourths of it. Yeah. It's no different in every other aspect of our lives is the intention that we bring. That's the energy we're bringing. Into that experience too. Yeah. I know we're getting down to the wire on time. So I wanna ask you, what has your grief taught you?

Angela Clement: Well, really, it's taught me to live life to the fullest. And it's a beautiful thing because Blaine did live his life to the fullest. You know, he if he wanted something, he went, got it. Like, there was no You know, he he enjoyed things fully. And so I feel like I'm carrying on a bit of a legacy and in living my life that way. And I think we realized that life is short. Right? And we need to do what we can to live it fully no matter what our circumstances are. And so, yeah, that's that's what I've learned.

Victoria Volk: And also too, I wanna kinda shift gears just really quickly to the fact that you give Angel readings because Mhmm. It's to be from someone who was just dabbling to now doing angel readings. What do you feel like has been Now, of course, energy healing work has kind of catapulted everything in this in this spiritual metaphysical trend? You know, trajectory in your

Angela Clement: life. Mhmm.

Victoria Volk: But I fully believe that we all have this gift to some extent. And so how have you harness that in your life? And how how is that developed? The gift of being able to tune in to in that way. Mhmm.

Angela Clement: Well, it started with me really wanting to be able to connect with Blaine, and I think a lot of people have that desire. Wanna be able to connect with their loved one. And at first, when I went to energy healing sessions, a lot of the healers had that gift. And so they could give me messages from Blaine, which I just thought was the most amazing thing because they would tell me things that they could never know. And so I knew he's truly there. I knew he's following me around. He's helping me with all kinds of things that I didn't realize. And that gave me

Victoria Volk: a lot of

Angela Clement: comfort. It was a big part of my healing. And so then I realized, well, if I could help others with this, being a brief coach would be, totally enhanced by being able to do an Angel Reading. And so the way that I do it now is I use Oracle cards to help me because I'm just not yet at that place where I can just pull the messages out from wherever. I'm sure that it'll get there someday. I I truly believe too that we all have that gift. So now what I do is I pull the cards and as I pull the cards, the messages start come in. So it's just it's just I think the pictures help, the words help. And the way I developed that was just I I had Oracle Cards as a young mom. And I would pull them for myself at night just to to help me through different circumstances and things. And I always felt better after I pulled the cards. It was like, oh, that's the message I needed to hear. Right? And so I just realized one day that, hey, I could do this for other people. I don't need to just do this for myself. So funny how we have these really simple realizations. And so, yeah, then I started helping people with that way. So, yeah, that's how I stumbled upon it.

Victoria Volk: It's been the same for me. It's like, it's been for myself and oh, well, I can yeah. Let's do this for you too. Our stories are kinda similar in that way, but Well, I wanna give you an opportunity to share before we disconnect here. If there's anything else you wanna share that you didn't feel you got to first,

Angela Clement: Yeah. Well, the only thing I just wanna make sure that people know that there is hope. You can move through this. It is possible. And you can live a fulfilling and happy and joyful life again. You totally can. So just Keep keep searching. Keep keep moving.

Victoria Volk: I have the same mission statement, so thank you for sharing. Where can people find you if they would like to connect with you and get your book and podcast, all of that?

Angela Clement: Mhmm. So healing energy dot world is my website and everything is there. The podcast links are there. I have meditations there. I have a group support. That's free, you can sign up for that. We meet about every ten days or so, and it's a fantastic group.

Victoria Volk: Online or in person.

Angela Clement: Online. We meet on Zoom. Yep. Okay. And that's been going on for a couple years now. And I have my healing sessions. I have the waking through grief program that you can take, and also, yeah, my book, which just just launched. And it's all about my story. There's exercises, journal prompts, all the things that I worked through with energy healing I share in there for people so that they can use them too. Lots of practical things. And, yeah, lots of spiritual journey in there as well because that was a big part of it. So

Victoria Volk: Well, and I will link to those in the show notes. And I thank you so much for your time today and sharing your story. And one final question. What does Blaine taught you through that experience? What did Blaine teach you through that experience?

Angela Clement: Blaine teach me. Well, he's still here teaching me.

Victoria Volk: Hey. That's great.

Angela Clement: Yeah. So, like, you know, he never leaves my side. He never leaves my side and he's been guiding me. I I truly think that, you know, he's just an angel now guiding me until I meet him again. And it's a beautiful relationship. It really is. It's really transformed. And so I guess maybe what I realized is just the depth of love and how it can withstand all kinds of challenges. And it permeates through all realms. It's amazing. It's always there. It's indestructible. You can't get rid of it. It's great.

Victoria Volk: And I think that's one of the greatest myths of death. Right? Is that the relationship ends? Yes. But it doesn't have to. And I think that's the message I'm hearing you say and the larger message and what you're what you have shared today.

Angela Clement: Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.

Victoria Volk: Love and doers. Mhmm. Thank you so much for sharing today and being my guest. And, yeah, thank you.

Angela Clement: This is the only conversation. Thank you for the opportunity and thank you for what you're doing. I really appreciate it.

Victoria Volk: Takes many of us. Right?

Angela Clement: Yes. Does.

Victoria Volk: And remember, when you unleash your heart, you unleash your life. Much love.